8: The Mormon Proposition (2010)

Highly Overrated But Still Good

Better Late Then Never

This movie feels like it was made purely to piss off people who want good shows

I enjoyed watching this film and would recommend other to give it a try , (as I am) but this movie, although enjoyable to watch due to the better than average acting fails to add anything new to its storyline that is all too familiar to these types of movies.

As much as I love guys, one thing people don't talk about is that giving write-offs for the baby-makers pays off in the long run, those babies support our retirement. Why should I pay more taxes because a couple of dudes want to be together forever, but can't pony up with my retirement cushion (aka babies). I appreciate love in all of its forms, but polygamy should be legalized first. I think it's wrong that a woman with wives and 10 children doesn't get tax write offs for her commitment; although, once that happens tax breaks are gonna wear so thin that everyone including LGBT will be crying about the rampant marriage licenses. I'd like tax breaks for promising to have and hold my one true love, Lou, my cat until death do us part... but I don't think that would be fair to my fellow tax payer, and besides, until men can marry men, they will never marry cats.

I didn't even watch the show and just from the preview I can see things are taken out of context and clips are from anti literature. If people actually believe this kind of one side garbage they should be ashamed. Besides I think there are a few more denominations that spoke out for Prop 8 and for what they believe in. Why single out the Mormons, talk about racism, take a look in the mirror. Seems like the film focuses on money that the Church spent on proposition 8. Who cares, unless your paying the church out of your own pocket what's it matter to you. Beside the receipts they show could easily be falsified or going to some charity. It's funny how people will believe anything they see on a screen. What a joke, it's to bad people even have to be like this just accept that people are different and accept then for who they are, right or wrong.

The time for good men and women to stand up and be counted in the fight for humans rights has been heard over and over again throughout the world. The fight for Jews in Nazi Germany, for African Americans in the United States, and for women here and throughout the world goes on. The front lines of the battle now in this country is for full and complete rights for gays and lesbians.The church, in all it's various names and forms, have been seen throughout history as one of the largest groups either ignoring those whose rights were being violated, or have been complicit in the violations. Here, in this film, we see the Mormon Church joining with the Catholic Church to raise millions to fight against human rights for gays and lesbians in California.This spectacular documentary shows how these churches hid behind a shell group to fight Proposition 8.The hate messages of the Mormon faithful was obvious. The church spread their lies, and the sheep just followed.The worst abuses by the Mormon Church are too horrific to comment on. You have to see the film to understand the cruelty of this so-called religion. They are no different today as the Catholic Church was in the 16th Century.The bottom line is that the Mormon Church will see that their $22 million spent to spread hate will be money wasted.

As a voter living in SoCal, I'm tired of hearing that I should be barred from making whatever legal donations to political and social causes that I wish because I'm LDS (Mormon). As repeatedly stated without refutation, the LDS Church contributed a total of about $200k to defending marriage in Prop 8's victory -- most of which was non-cash support. The rest of so-called Mormon money, on both sides of this issue, came from private voters. So what? Under what pretense am I to be denied my right to participate?Please consider the following:* 10% more money was contributed to oppose Prop 8 than to support it ($44 million vs. $40 million). Any Mormon influence on donations to support Prop 8 only served to narrow Prop 8's di$avantage, but did not overcome it. Now we have this film that would have us believe that the side spending *less* money bought the election.* Donations from outside of California opposing Prop 8 were double the amount supporting it. This means that Californian donations were more supportive of Prop 8 than were funds from the outsiders who sought to influence us. This is another indicator that Californians supported Prop 8 generally -- not just the Mormon minority -- in opposition to the noisy minority that sought to buy this election with greater spending.* Some say that Mormons donated too much in this election. By what standard? I agree that others did not donate their fair share but I do not see how our donations should be curtailed because of others' stinginess -- at least until celebrity donors also are curtailed.Given that Prop 8 won 52% to 48% and that total donations were $40 million in favor to $44 million against: $1.20 was donated for every opposing vote vs. $1.00 donated for every supporting vote. So, which side donated in excess? It would be more reasonable to complain that the losing side donated too much, based upon their spending per vote.* The total adult Mormon population in California only equals about half Prop 8's margin of victory. If all of us had voted and had voted for Prop 8 (polls showed that 1 in 10 Mormons opposed it), our votes still would not have affected the outcome.* The kind of pressure to support Prop 8 this film propounds was not known among us in reality. E.g., in my local ward (congregation), a man that spoke out against Prop 8 in our scripture class every week was allowed to drone on uncensured and uncensored. Shortly after the election, he was called to be president of our Sunday School (which admittedly could be seen as punishment).* The Catholic Archdiocese of San Francisco contacted the Mormon leaders to ask for our help with Prop 8. We were happy to make common cause with them (well, as noted above, 9/10 of us were).* Mormon support for Prop 8 is based in, as the bumper stickers said, supporting marriage. The Church supports equal civil rights for homosexuals, including parity of civil unions: the Salt Lake City council recently passed an anti-homosexual-discrimination measure. The LDS Church endorsed it; apparently, there wasn't room in this film for this inconvenient truth.* Polls showed that 70% of California's black voters and ~ 52% of our Hispanic voters supported Prop 8 and their votes -- not the pro-Prop-8 90% of the 2% Mormons make of California's population -- are enough to account for Prop 8's margin of victory.* Prop 8 garnered 1 million more votes in favor than did the similar Prop 22 in 1998.Film makers are free to write and produce whatever they want. I just wish they wouldn't confuse the audiences of this one with their street theater of *acting* like this was a documentary.But this, too shall pass. To review:1986. Mark Hoffman is arrested for murder and for forging documents that appeared to relate to LDS history. A national publication says that this "rocked" the Church's foundation. People breathlessly awaited the collapse of the restored Church. Now, nobody remembers him.And the caravan moved on, healing souls.2006. "September Dawn," a fatuous movie claiming to be based upon the massacre at Mountain Meadows is released. People breathlessly awaited the collapse of the restored Church. It shortly was seen as too specious to be taken seriously. Now, nobody remembers it.And the caravan moved on, healing souls.2010. "8: The Mormon Proposition," a fatuous movie claiming to be based upon Prop 8's campaign and election is released. People breathlessly await the collapse of the restored Church. It shortly will be seen as too specious to be taken seriously. Soon, nobody will remember it.And the caravan moves on, healing souls.(BTW, this is nothing new: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Victim_Of_The_Mormons_3.jpg)